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Video - Run



Song: Run by Snow Patrol
Characters: Charlie and Claire
Description: Charlie and Claire's time together was all too brief. Fate was denying them a future and it was time to say goodbye
download link: http://www.box.net/shared/hntvy1ylnt



Thanks for jellyfrog  for this gorgeous graphic and pacejunkie  for the heartbreaking description.

I know the saying we should never say never but this is probably my last PB&J video. I didn't enjoy making this very much... it made me teared up a few times and I actually lost sleep over it. Now that it's done, maybe I'll sleep better.

While making this video, I kept thinking how much potential these two had in season 1, how their relationship was so unique (as opposed to the very cliché "Bad boy/hot chick/good boy" triangle from Hell). To know that these two never got the chance to grow together just brakes my heart. And to know that Charlie went to his death without knowing if Claire loved him back is just too tragic. In this video, I kept showing Claire being broken up by Charlie dying.... but will she really? She barely shown any concern for him. In fact, throughout season 3, we were shown Charlie being concerned over Claire when, by all means, it should have been the opposite. 

One of the reason I was so convinced that Charlie was going to survive was the PB&J ship. They got so little attention, so little screentime that I believed they were doing it on purpose so that they could drag their relationship throughout the series. I was wrong.

I'm not sure that without them, without Charlie's presence on the show, with the very annoying quadrangle from Hell, with characters I used to like turning despicable, that I'm going to bother downloading episodes so I can make videos. I'm not even sure I'll continue watching. I'm going to do Cappy's Superman request and after that, I'll retire from vidding. I could do vids to other fandoms but problem is, getting clips is a lot of work and finding scenes to use is even more work. And there's not a show or movie out there that I love enough to go through all that trouble. I'm not motivated enough. 

And frankly, since jellyfrog introduced me to graphics making, I've been more motivated to make graphics than videos. Making icons and banners is a lot quicker, it requires a lot less resources, you can pretty much make graphics to every fandom you like without going through days of finding clips and scenes. I've done graphics to Transformers and Die Hard and I've enjoyed that very much. I might be better at making videos than graphics but the important thing is doing what you like.  

Hey, I might even start writing again (oh yeah, some of you have heard that before!! For real though... I'll try!!) 
ETA: This video won best PB&J vid of the year at Lost Video Island!

 

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cylune9
Aug. 23rd, 2007 12:54 pm (UTC)
*hugs back* Thanks so much for the nice words jen... Overall Lost has been a disappointment but I do not regret getting involved in the fandom because I met some great and very talented friends like yourself. It was all worth it in the end.

jellyfrog
Aug. 23rd, 2007 04:57 am (UTC)
Oh wow, lune, I didn't realize it was that bad. :( I'm sorry you're having such a hard time.

It's terribly depressing to imagine not having any more vids from you. Almost as depressing as it must be for you to know that there isn't likely to be new footage you'd want to use. :(

I'm glad you're enjoying the graphics though. You're getting really good too! And there are so many possibilities for graphics... I remember how pleased I was when I suddenly realized that I didn't have to just make Lost icons, I could make icons of anything I wanted. So liberating. :)
cylune9
Aug. 23rd, 2007 01:01 pm (UTC)
I'm thinking maybe I'll do a Desmond vid but is it worth it to watch and download all those episodes just for one character? We'll see. But I had fun with vidding overall. It gave me a lot of recognition and it felt really good getting all those great comments. And, you know, creating something. It was fun.

I remember how pleased I was when I suddenly realized that I didn't have to just make Lost icons, I could make icons of anything I wanted. So liberating. :)

LOL!! I felt the same way when I went looking for pictures for Transformers and Die Hard!! I'd like to do an x-file batch too. I'm sure scully is very iconable.
jellyfrog
Aug. 23rd, 2007 02:52 pm (UTC)
Yeah, do some X-Files! Do some Firefly. Heck, you could even do some Emilio Estevez. ;)

I'd sure love a Desmond vid. :) And you probably wouldn't need to download everything... He probably won't be in more than two or three episodes anyway.

Whatever you decide for next season, I'm glad you got a chance to find out how talented you are.
cylune9
Aug. 23rd, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)
EMILIO!!!!!! :D

And you probably wouldn't need to download everything... He probably won't be in more than two or three episodes anyway.

Is that supposed to make me feel better or worse? ;)
jellyfrog
Aug. 24th, 2007 05:31 pm (UTC)
Sorry. :P

Your new header is GORGEOUS!!!! Are those your kids?
cylune9
Aug. 24th, 2007 06:31 pm (UTC)
Thanks!!! Yep, these are Claire and Christian. ;)
falafel_fiction
Aug. 23rd, 2007 09:54 am (UTC)
Very sad to hear you're retiring from vidding, cylune (though I did breathe a sigh of relief when you said you would still make Superman). I don't blame you. With fanfic you're free to do whatever you like, but with vidding you have to rely on the show for new clips and now they have cut off your supply.

I agree with your feelings about the CC relationship. It was very popular with the fans in S1. I guess the S1 writers cared about CC more. Since Darlton took control of the show they neglected their ship then destroyed it with no consideration for their fans feelings. Darlton deserve to be losing viewers.

I didn't get the impression that Claire loved Charlie in the end. I actually had a Charlie POV fic in mind where he goes to say goodbye to Claire and decides that if she begs him not to leave her then he won't go. But seeing as she doesn't he imagines she doesn't care about him after all.



cylune9
Aug. 23rd, 2007 01:14 pm (UTC)
Superman!! I'm eager to get started on that. I've got all sorts of ideas based on your Flash/Superman theory. I think it's going to be very original and very audio-heavy. I know you like it when I insert audio in vids!

I didn't get the impression that Claire loved Charlie in the end.
I didn't get that either. *sigh* I thought the ultimate development in the relationship would have been for Claire to realize that she did love Charlie(And for Charlie to stop lying to her!). Maybe we'll get that development when the fourth season starts... It would be too late for Charlie but at least we'll know if she really cared about him. So what I want to see is Claire depressed and broken up and feeling so sorry she never told Charlie how much she cared. Or maybe I'm setting myself up for even more disappointments. Since when did the writers care how Claire felt outside her annual centric episode?

I actually had a Charlie POV fic in mind where he goes to say goodbye to Claire and decides that if she begs him not to leave her then he won't go. But seeing as she doesn't he imagines she doesn't care about him after all.
*yikes* That would fall under the category "Most Depressing Fic Ever".
falafel_fiction
Aug. 23rd, 2007 03:31 pm (UTC)
Wow! I really can't wait for the Superman vid now, if you're gonna portray my Sups/Flash theory in it. Sooo excited. Aggh! There needs to be more Chesmond vids!! *explodes with Chesmond fixation*

Grrrr...Claire. She had every chance to tell Charlie how she felt when Desmond told her that he was seeing constant visions of Charlies death. I really thought that would push Claire into finally showing Charlie some love. But there was NOTHING. She remained utterly passive as always. I was thoroughly disappointed in her. It's not just Claire being unloving in their relationship - she wasn't even there for him as a friend. Des and Hurley were far more protective and caring. I think if Claire is a wreck after she learns that Charlie has drowned it might be more like she is feeling sorry for herself (rather than Charlie) or - like her daddy would say - she'll just be feeling guilty.
pacejunkie
Aug. 23rd, 2007 01:30 pm (UTC)
I didn't get the impression that Claire loved Charlie in the end. I actually had a Charlie POV fic in mind where he goes to say goodbye to Claire and decides that if she begs him not to leave her then he won't go. But seeing as she doesn't he imagines she doesn't care about him after all.

I don't think that's far from canon actually. That was exactly the impression I got when Claire promised not to worry and then gave him a little peck. Yeah, she was visibly a bit upset, but was she terrified she might lose him? Regretting that there were things she never told him? Not at all. I think Charlie's reaction to the kiss and the whole exchange said it all. When he turned away he looked not only sad but disappointed. I think a part of him was hoping she would beg him not to go. I know my shipper side wants Claire to be an emotional wreck when she hears the news, my realistic side knows she will likely just go all quiet for a few episodes and then emerge from her obligatory mourning period as if Charlie had never existed.

I'm so sorry about your vidding lune. You're the most talented vidder out there and it's a huge loss, but I understand that you have to feel inspired to do what really takes a lot of time and work. Writing is a lot easier and it seems that graphics is too, you only need to be a little inspired to do them and you can still do wonderful satisfying things.

Whatever you do, please continue to have some creative outlet whatever it is. Everyone needs that. As for vids, I was secretly hoping you would continue making DesPenny vids and maybe branch out to other B Team characters we like, such as Sayid, Sun or Hurley. Maybe you'll find your inspiration again. If not, just go where the flow takes you.

It is sad, it feels like the end of a wonderful creative period for all of us. I'm hanging in though, for as long as I can. Luckily you don't need new footage for fanfic. It helps to have a storyline on the show to follow and play with, but if I try a bit harder, hopefully I can still come up with my own.
cylune9
Aug. 23rd, 2007 01:58 pm (UTC)
I think a part of him was hoping she would beg him not to go.

ITA. He was going to his death and part of him must have hoped for a way out to it. Claire begging him not to go, maybe saying that she'd rather live with him on the island rather than being rescued without him... He goes on a suicide mission, you know the universe is trying to kill him... For the love of god woman, put two and two together!!!

As for vids, I was secretly hoping you would continue making DesPenny vids and maybe branch out to other B Team characters we like, such as Sayid, Sun or Hurley. Maybe you'll find your inspiration again.

Maybe... B-team needs some loving. And don't we all love Penny these days?? ;)

Oh and I wouldn't say that writing is a lot easier. *shudders*
falafel_fiction
Aug. 23rd, 2007 03:35 pm (UTC)
Hey! You know a B-Team vid filled with Des, Charlie, Hurley, Jin, Sayid, etc awesomeness would be great. You could even use paceys 'We are the champions' song suggestion. LOL!
cylune9
Aug. 23rd, 2007 03:54 pm (UTC)
That would be hilarious!!!! B-Team for the win!!!!
falafel_fiction
Aug. 23rd, 2007 03:44 pm (UTC)
I know EXACTLY what you mean, pace. Claire says "okay" far too lightly and quickly. Then Charlie does this heartbreaking little nod like he was secretly hoping she would be worried - so worried she wouldn't let him go through with it. Also Charlies look when Des says "what about your girl?" like he knows there is no point in Des trying to save his and Claires relationship. Penny has spent 3 years trying to rescue Des, but Claire made no effort whatsoever to save him.

cylune9
Aug. 23rd, 2007 03:53 pm (UTC)
That reminds me of Penny's words...

All it takes to survive is one person who truly loves us

*sigh*

falafel_fiction
Aug. 24th, 2007 09:19 am (UTC)
*sniff* At least Hurley told Charlie he loved him. Even if Claire was a cold fish, Charlie and Hurley could've settled down and been merry bacholors together.
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